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Source : RX8Club.com - New and Potential Owners START HERE! Auteur : RIWWP

The Best Way to Search This Forum — Rechercher sur le forum​

RX-8 Club has tons of information on hand. And I mean tons. Literally. Add up the weight of everyone's brain, and it will be several tons. Sorry, I know that was bad.

Collectively, we know more than any one dealership, tech, repair shop, or spec manual. However, as usual, the information doesn't all sit in one place, it doesn't sit in one head, and we have our idiots, our morons, our assholes, our kids, our jerks, and our literary incompetents. Just like any forum. Fortunately, we have relatively fewer of those than most other car communities out there. But they still exist.

We also have a Search button, and a Search function for the board, but it isn't very good. It removes words that it sees as common or too short, but are a critical part of the search. It doesn't allow for search by relevancy, as in real relevancy. You mostly have to do a lot of hunting and pecking in the search results to come up with what you might be looking for.

Add the two above issues together, and you can easily take all day to find only bad information.

But I have good news! You can improve your results and search speed by up to 15% by switching to Google!

Méthode de recherche via Google​

Go to Google.com, and in the search box, type: site:rx8club.com

Then a space.

Then start typing what you are looking for.

Example: RX8Club.com search via Google

Your Google search results will be ONLY from this forum, and it will use all the power and intelligence of the best search engine in the world.

I still use that function nearly every day between RX8Club.com, Miata.net, Mazdas247.com, Mazda-speed.com, and Stackoverflow.com. So if you have a question that you think is common, give that search method a try, sit back with your beverage of choice and start reading.

Astuce : Rechercher dans un fil spécifique​

If you are trying to search within a specific thread for information threads that turn out to be very long, add the name of the thread to your search in quotes. This will not restrict the search to just that thread, however the results from that thread will be biased towards the top of the Google search results.

Example: Search RX8Club.com's Dumb Question Thread for MAF Sensor posts

If Google is too hard, or you are boycotting them or something, check this out instead for a method on how to do more complicated .PHP searches: More complicated PHP searching through link creation

Astuce : Exclure le bruit​

If you are getting lots of noise in your result set for some reason, or things not related to your problem, add negative qualifiers to your search string. For example searching site:rx8club.com alternator -starter will only give you results that DO contain alternator, and DON'T contain 'starter'.

Often, it may be helpful to use this with:

  • -mobile and/or -m.rx8club.com to remove the mobile sites
  • -tagged to remove the links that are only a list of threads with the tags (our tag system is largely useless)

Want More Technical Information from Mazda? — Infos techniques Mazda​

Attached is a PDF page from Mazda regarding some of the more specifics, including the engine limitations of the various configurations, and how the intake runners work.

An excerpt regarding the dynamic intake:

The sequential dynamic air intake system (S-DAIS) operates in response to engine speed by controlling the secondary and auxiliary ports, and opening/closing the variable intake valve installed upstream of the secondary port's shutter valve. In this way, the system achieves optimal control of intake pressure propagation for each port. RENESIS also takes full advantage of the twin rotor's charging effect to boost intake for more substantial low-to-mid range torque as well as increased torque and power output at higher engine speeds. Since all valves are formed to streamline flow through the intake passage during valve opening/closing, intake resistance is substantially reduced.

The intake system on the 4-port engine has 2 intake ports per rotor, for a total of 4. Intake ports are controlled by opening/closing of a variable intake valve governing use of the secondary intake port. First, at low engine speeds, only the primary intake port is used, speeding intake flow for improved low-end torque. Next, the secondary port comes into operation at around 3750rpm through the opening of its shutter valve, slowing intake flow to increase low- and midrange torque. In addition, the 6-port engine's auxiliary port opens at about 6250rpm to maximize intake port area and boost high-end torque and power output to the upper limit. Finally, with the 6-port engine, the variable intake valve opens at around 7250rpm (approximately 5750rpm in the 4-port engine), effectively lengthening the intake manifold for improved mid-range torque.

Manuals — Manuels et documentations​

Manuel d'atelier Renesis 13B-MSP​

  • Renesis Rotary Engine Workshop Manual : PDF

Manuels de service RX-8 (RotaryHeads)​

  • Informations générales : PDF
  • Dépannage moteur : PDF
  • Spécifications moteur : PDF
  • Diagnostic et contrôle moteur : PDF
  • Transmissions (manuelle et auto) : PDF
  • Transmission intégrale : PDF
  • Freins : PDF
  • Direction : PDF
  • Suspension : PDF
  • Climatisation : PDF
  • Carrosserie : PDF
  • Sécurité : PDF
  • Électricité : PDF
  • Manuel du propriétaire : PDF

Manuels complémentaires (Foxed.ca)​

  • Pièces RX-8 2004 (fiche) : PDF
  • Collision RX-8 : PDF
  • Service Highlights 2004 : PDF
  • Service Highlights 2005 : PDF
  • Service Highlights 2006 : PDF
  • Service Highlights 2009 : PDF
  • Boîte manuelle 2004-2008 : PDF
  • Boîte auto 4 vitesses 2004-2005 : PDF
  • Manuel d'atelier Renesis : PDF

Questions We Can't Answer — Questions auxquelles nous ne pouvons pas répondre​

(Adapted from NASIOC's thread here)

Questions d'assurance automobile​

Car insurance is metered via the state, city, car year, car model, car trim level, car modifications, driving record, amount of drivers, drivers' age, drivers' marital status, car use, and about 99 other things. All of these components are crunched by the 10,000 different auto insurers to give you 10,000 different quotes.

Want a quote? Visit online calculators:

Still not satisfied? Check out this Insurance thread: What are you paying for insurance on your RX-8?

"Combien pour réparer mon RX-8 endommagé ?"​

Posting pics for sympathy is fine. Asking people how much to fix will net you 12,000 guesses. You don't get a diagnosis for cancer online and the same rules apply with car damage.

"Ma voiture est-elle un sinistre total ?"​

Most insurance companies will only total your car if the damage is 75% of the value. Looks account for nothing. Want to maximize what you get out of an insurance claim? How to get the most from an insurance claim

"Combien devrais-je payer pour mon RX-8 ?"​

We live in a fair market economy. Bob in Texas and Jan in Indiana buying the same car will not pay the same price. Always remember: people tend to downplay their paid price to make them seem to be a crafty bargainer.

"Mon Check Engine Light est allumé, qu'est-ce qui ne va pas ?"​

Any question related to a CEL is worthless unless you list your car type and the PXXXX CEL code. We also have a list of all CEL codes here: RX-8 Technical Info - CEL Codes, PCM Pin List, Collision Guide

"La voiture X va-t-elle battre ma voiture ?"​

This type of question is called "bench racing". Go to a track and find out. 95% of racing is the driver.

"Quel sera mon WHP avec ces mods ?"​

Let's follow the chain of factors: your tuner's ability, spark plug type/condition, fuel octane, temperature, elevation, humidity, dyno SAE correction factor, dyno type, whether it's a loading dyno or not, your mods, whether your mods are working properly. Your WHP figures are your WHP figures and there is no such thing as average when it comes to dyno figures.

"Quel turbo ai-je ?"​

The only surefire method of finding out what turbo you have is to pay for an inspection at a reputable turbo shop such as Forced Performance or Blouch. It should run under $100.

Questions We CAN Answer — Questions auxquelles nous pouvons répondre​

Most issues that the RX-8 faces are easily answered when you post detailed, descriptive, and accurate explanations of what symptoms you are having with your RX-8. Many of our issues share common symptoms with at least one other issue. Several of the really common issues share MOST of their symptoms with another problem. So when you post: "power loss?" We can't really tell you what is going on. We can only throw the book of possible issues at you for you to figure out.

The amount of assistance you receive is DIRECTLY associated to how much detail you provide!

Ce qu'il faut partager :​

A) Break each issue you are seeing out by itself. For each of these issues, detail what RPMs it occurs in, and what RPMs it doesn't. Detail how much throttle you are giving when it occurs.

B) Detail what the ambient temperatures are that you are seeing, what the gauges are doing.

C) If you have a CEL, GIVE US THE CODE! (most auto-parts stores will pull the code for free for you. Otherwise, you can buy a code reader for LESS than the dealer's diagnostic price.) (Hint, search with Google and site:rx8club.com before posting.)

D) Detail any possible modifications or repairs that have been made within the last 3,000 miles, even if it seems like it's not related.

E) Detail the age and mileage of the car, and what maintenance history it has been on. NOT just "it's gotten regular maintenance" because there are wear items that are not part of "regular maintenance" for dealers and most shops.

F) Since many issues are ignition related, and you are going to get asked, give us the mileage and age of ignition coils, wires, and plugs.

G) Detail out when it DOESN'T happen. This is just as critical as when it does!

Another thing to keep in mind is that unless you are being a complete jackass, and unless the person responding to you is ignorant about the issues, our answers are going to be pretty accurate, if not dead on. Even if you don't like the option. We have no stake in your finances, no stake in making money off of it. We DON'T like to see unhealthy or busted 8s. So if you choose to ignore our recommendations, do so at your own peril.

Wait. Why Would Anyone Buy an RX-8? — Pourquoi acheter un RX-8 ?​

Everything above is practically screaming at you not to buy an RX-8 isn't it? Well, yes and no. If you are hearing that loud and clear, and do not place much value in things like "joy", then this isn't the car for you. Find something else. We have no interest in owners that hate the car because they purchased it with their eyes shut and then got punched in the face for wandering around the rotary world without paying attention. The RX-8 has issues, yes. But so do plenty of other cars out there. Cars that people pursue passionately despite constant problems. Pretty much the entire British and Italian sports car and roadster categories fall under this. It doesn't take much looking to find that just about any car of passion has both sides of the passion coin.

You will become emotional about this car unless you ignore it and move elsewhere. It will happen.

And that's really the whole point. We love this car. It's an emotion to us. Inherently not logical or reasonable. The people that dislike the 8 do so passionately as well. Everyone likes to come up with logical reasons to like or dislike it, but in the end it's all about how the car you drive makes you feel. If the only way your car impacts you is not feeling wallet-raped every month, then you are going to bias toward cost efficient cars. For some ex-owners that hate the RX-8, the feeling is one of devastation, anger, even betrayal. Largely, those owners bought it and either tried to make it something it's not, or bought it without any idea of what they were getting into.

For most of us, the only feeling we pursue is that what plasters that grin to our face. And everyone gets it differently.

The costs of ownership are high for us. But so are the rewards. For most of us, the rewards outweigh the costs. The reward of joy is something that we passionately pursue. Continually. It never gets old, it never becomes something less valuable. For many of us, that joy is what life is all about, and we found something that speaks to us, something that gets us there.

Definitely rule out any vehicles that don't make sense financially. But if it's between two or more cars that are all reasonably affordable to you, you will end up picking the one that makes you feel the best. Or gives you the feelings you are seeking most accurately. Too many people out there only want their car to leave them alone. They don't want anything having to do with cars, but in the end still have one because of the basic need for transportation. They want to be isolated from the road, from other cars, from other people. They want the car to be efficient so it doesn't cost them too much, they want it reliable so they don't have to pay attention to it.

To anyone that asks, I always tell them: Find a car that speaks to you. Find one you enjoy. One that puts a smile on your face. There is nothing else like it. It doesn't have to be a rotary, good handling, or even pretty. If it fits you, then it's a perfect fit. Enjoy!

This is another thread to go through that has probably sold more 8s than any single salesman out there: Little Things

It really shows what it is about the RX-8 that we love.